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	<title>Comments on: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (the&#160;movie)</title>
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		<title>By: Ned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting what you say here. I actually think that, though Pullman&#039;s books are very rich and layered with science and philosophy (more so than Rowling&#039;s), he actually seems to have a pretty surface level view of Christianity. In an interview I read, it says the screenplay for the movie backs off the anti-religious content a bit, and makes it more of a statement against strict doctrines or dogmas of any kind and kind of becomes more of a political statement. 

I am disappointed in this, not because I am all for anti-Christian sentiment, but I was anxious to see if audiences could even discern the philosophy in the films or if it might be absorbed at a more subconscious level. And though I believe in God much more concretely than Pullman does, I certainly long for Christianity to be severed from &quot;the establishment&quot; which, in my view has nearly blasmphemed it anyway. So in that regard at least, perhaps I share some of Pullman&#039;s sensibilities. Though I have to say, I completely disagree with some of the things he has to say in his trilogy about power. But maybe I&#039;m getting ahead discussing books that few of us have read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting what you say here. I actually think that, though Pullman&#8217;s books are very rich and layered with science and philosophy (more so than Rowling&#8217;s), he actually seems to have a pretty surface level view of Christianity. In an interview I read, it says the screenplay for the movie backs off the anti-religious content a bit, and makes it more of a statement against strict doctrines or dogmas of any kind and kind of becomes more of a political statement. </p>
<p>I am disappointed in this, not because I am all for anti-Christian sentiment, but I was anxious to see if audiences could even discern the philosophy in the films or if it might be absorbed at a more subconscious level. And though I believe in God much more concretely than Pullman does, I certainly long for Christianity to be severed from &#8220;the establishment&#8221; which, in my view has nearly blasmphemed it anyway. So in that regard at least, perhaps I share some of Pullman&#8217;s sensibilities. Though I have to say, I completely disagree with some of the things he has to say in his trilogy about power. But maybe I&#8217;m getting ahead discussing books that few of us have read.</p>
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		<title>By: J.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on the date!

Any examination about the  quality of religious themes found in HP would most certainly involve spoilers.  Ned, are you prepared to for that?

I wholeheartedly agree.  For religious themes, Pullman is the way to go.  Doesn’t it seem unlikely that the second and third parts will be made into a movies?  The plot of His Dark Materials depends on a whole host of  blasphemies. 

Haven’t the Hollow Men always relentlessly attacked one another’s “untruths”?  I think we see each other quite clearly because we are equally introspective, though sometimes debilitatingly and disfunctionally so.  We employ our introspective instruments, honed by our personal vivisection, on the group with relish.  But perhaps this is just the narrative we would like to believe and is itself yet another untruth.

Jeeze Ned, you can sure pack a lot into one post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the date!</p>
<p>Any examination about the  quality of religious themes found in HP would most certainly involve spoilers.  Ned, are you prepared to for that?</p>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree.  For religious themes, Pullman is the way to go.  Doesn’t it seem unlikely that the second and third parts will be made into a movies?  The plot of His Dark Materials depends on a whole host of  blasphemies. </p>
<p>Haven’t the Hollow Men always relentlessly attacked one another’s “untruths”?  I think we see each other quite clearly because we are equally introspective, though sometimes debilitatingly and disfunctionally so.  We employ our introspective instruments, honed by our personal vivisection, on the group with relish.  But perhaps this is just the narrative we would like to believe and is itself yet another untruth.</p>
<p>Jeeze Ned, you can sure pack a lot into one post.</p>
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